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´╗┐jobs focus in second day of shoreline methanol hearings A day after Northwest Innovation Works pitched its proposed Kalama methanol plant as environmentally friendly, opposition attorneys Tuesday argued that it would be a big source of greenhouse gas emissions and challenged its compliance with the state Shorelines Management Act. Northwest Innovation needs two shorelines permits for the $1.8 billion project, which underwent scrutiny Tuesday during the second of three days of public hearings on the permit application. Tuesday's testimony included statements from opponents such as the Cowlitz Indian Tribe and proponents such as former Washington Gov. Gary Locke. Hearing Examiner Mark Scheibmier is expected to make a decision on whether to approve the permits within a few weeks. His ruling must be reviewed by the Ecology, which then would issue the final decision. The plant would convert natural gas into methanol, which would be shipped to Asia for use in plastics production. Earthjustice attorney Amanda Goodin argued the plant would interfere with the public's access to the Columbia River shoreline, particularly because of steam plumes and emissions releases during start up and shut down periods. "It would be unpleasant at best and dangerous at worst to recreate when those emissions are taking place," Goodin said. Goodin said the proponent's plans to build an access road and parking lot to increase public access to the shoreline isn't sufficient. "Simply providing a parking lot doesn't explain away these other impacts," she said. Miles Johnson, attorney for Hood River based Columbia Riverkeeper, added, "Who is going to want to go for a stroll on the Columbia or go fishing or take their family for a picnic in the shadow of a 90 acre petrochemical (plant) ?" Johnson argued that the parking lot would take up more of the shoreline, introduce new impervious surfaces and affect one of the few areas of riparian habitat on site. "It's not clear that this isn't going to do more harm than good for citizen's ability to enjoy the natural area of the shoreline," Johnson said. Although Scheibmier said it was a "gray area" whether greenhouse gas emissions can be regulated under the state shoreline act, opponents argued that they should be because they are causing nike 07 kmtr climate change that will directly affect the shorelines. Northwest Innovation Works has argued that its project would cut down on greenhouse gas emissions by replacing coal based methanol with natural gas based methanol. But Goodin said the project proponents have been unable to prove their plant would replace coal to methanol plants. "It's important to know that these (climate change) impacts won't just be felt at the project site. All of the shorelines of nike 6050 the state will be harmed. Protecting the state's shorelines means doing everything we can to avoid the worst impacts of climate change, and that means drastically reducing our greenhouse gas emissions. Unfortunately this project will move us fast in the absolute opposite direction," Goodin said. According to the final environmental impact study of the proposed plant, the facility would release 1.25 million to 1.53 million metric tons of carbon dioxide annually, or the equivalent emissions of 250,000 to 325,000 cars. But former Gov. ambassador to China, said the project is vital to improving air quality in China by reducing the country's reliance on coal. "The people that are concerned about this project wear outdoor gear made by Helly Hansen, or Under Armour and Gore Tex or Nike. Those are all made of plastics, synthetic and olefins produced by methanol," Locke said. "China needs to move away from the use of coal, and that's why this project is so important because it is supplying that methanol which is used in the manufacturing of plastics and garments that we use every single day. By using a solution that is less damaging to the environment, yes it still produces greenhouse gases, but it is significantly less than the current technology." Locke and other proponents also pointed to the project's economic benefits. The methanol plant would add 192 permanent jobs, 1,000 construction jobs and millions in tax revenue. In a 10 minute presentation, Ted Sprague, executive director of Cowlitz Economic Development Council, painted a bleak picture of the county's economic downtown and urged approval of the project. "Job loss, housing stagnation and decreased wages (in Cowlitz) results in many (societal) ills. We have witnessed an increase in homelessness, drug addiction and most of all, poverty," Sprague said. "To reverse these alarming trends, we desperately need the construction and fulltime jobs that NWIW project will bring to Cowlitz County." Diane, please tell us exactly how a tax on plant food will "maintain the perfect balance of co2 and climate". The climate has changed for hundreds of millions of years and for most all of it, man was not here. The most biodiversity the planet has ever seen was when co2 was as high as 6,000 ppm, not the paltry 400 ppm we are seeing now. Rex Tillerson is now a politician and his boss wants to pull out of the Paris Climate Agreement, which is fine with me. We will now and as far as the eye can see need low cost energy for are nations health and freedom. Taxing governments, companies and individuals by a huge amount does zip, zero nadda to control a gas that is vital to our existence!! The planet does a perfectly good job of that pretty much no matter what we do. I have written extensively on this particular topic. Global Warming. One of my contentions has always been the accuracy of the way so called climate scientists measure temperature. Satellites can only do so much and have only been doing a remotely accurate job in recent years. Data collecting stations that have been in place on and around the planet have been overrun by cities and human growth. 40 years ago Beijing China was nothing more than a couple of goat paths. Now it is a city of over 19 million with very specific topography and climate that do not allow pollutants to be scoured out of the geographical area, but the data collecting stations measure what humans have done to the local environment, not the global climate. This is also the case for data collecting stations around the world, thus creating the false premise that global temperatures are rising at a staggering rate, when in reality they are not. The article states that Co2 (plant food) has increased from about 3 parts per 10,000 to just under 4 parts per 10,000. Now, to put that into context. Take 10,000 $1 bills and lay them down end to end and they will stretch 5,120 feet or over 9 tenths of a mile. Now take 4 $1 bills and place them end to end. The will stretch just over 2 feet. According to climate scientists funded by the government, which means that is where their bread is buttered, plant food in the form of Co2 is the most dangerous thing to mankind. Now, if you look at satellite data taken in the last 30 years of the boreal forests of the northern hemisphere, they have greened up and contain more carbon based plant matter than at anytime in the past 50 years. My contention is that is a very very good thing!! Mr. Shanahan. Good science, written in understandable english. The figure, 3 parts per 10,000 that you mention was the number one hundred years ago, so it is important to note that there has only been an increase of 1 part per 10,000 since then. Sticking wth your analogy that's an increase of less than six inches in nearly a mile. People believe, in their hearts, that the earth is being destroyed by this 100/ppm of Co2 because the news media tells them to. Unfortunately most people will swear that nearly anything is true if the talking head on the 6:00 news says so. In the last 50 years industrial pollution has been minimize